he's president at an organization aimed at educating americans about wasteful spending. karen el i can't tell house is a former white house journalist publisher. good morning to you. you put out that ad. i was actually startled by that poll result that showed mitt romney was 1 points ahead with -- 14 points ahead with the middle class because this has been central to the campaign message of president obama, that he's the guy that relates to the middle class. >> that's right. you saw in that ad that we went around and talked to middle class voters across america and we talked to only people who voted for president obama. all in the middle class, all around this country. they're all changing their vote to mitt romney because of these issues, jobs and the economy, and they have seen that mitt romney's plan for a stronger middle class will work. so that's why these folks are changing their position. >> gretchen: sasha, i thought mitt romney was the out of touch rich guy? >> i do, too. >> gretchen: no, no, that's how he's been portrayed. but he's 14 points ahead with the peop